A Noose Found at UCSD Library


Tonight, around 12AM, the Student Regent Office was informed that a noose was found at the 7th floor of Geisel Library.  The picture we show below is not to promote or display such disturbing images to the public, but to properly document such actions to the public, and condemn them for the racism they perpetuate.

This racism and fear is not acceptable.  Not acceptable at all.  We will fight this.

Note: Bystanders were cropped out of the photo.  Comments have expressed concern that individuals in the photo would be target as culprits.  We apologize, we meant no harm in posting the picture and recognize the issues that it brings.  We keep the picture on the website for documentation and evidence that the noose was placed, and so there can be no question about the actual existence of the incident.

1:18AM UPDATE

monifigi NOOSE WAS FOUND IN THE LIBRARY. SOMEONE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE GUARDIAN SAYING MORE ARE COMING. MEET AT LIBRARY WALK TOMORROW AT 8am.
adanacnut UCSD: someone sent message to the Guardian saying more nooses will come, they’re fucking with us. :(

2:20pm UPDATE
UCSD Police Department: There have been no eyewitness accounts.  There are no cameras in that area of the library, so there is no documentation of who might have put it there.  The area has been dusted for fingerprints, and the noose has been removed so they can run a DNA analysis.  Unfortunately, a DNA analysis can only match up with people who are currently in the criminal database as well.  They are currently running a criminal investigation, the police chief has been called.

224 responses to “A Noose Found at UCSD Library

  1. To those who didn’t think the Compton Cookout posed a serious problem, what about this?

    • Melissa Thompson

      Wow…this is how the world is seeing your school…Embarrassing!

    • Logical fallacy Nazi

      Post hoc ergo propter hoc

      • This fallacy only applies when the assumption is based solely on the course of events not on the factors which link the events. As there is a clear connection between the two which can be seen in terms of cause and effect the fallacy doesn’t apply, but good try.

    • the cookout is not responsible for the structural racism in higher education. they are just undergrads using freedom of speech in an immature and rude way.

      the real problem is institutional, it has to do with how decisions are made from the top, not the bottom. those are the perceptions that need to change because they control the decisions that matter, like who gets to go to school.

  2. It’s going to keep on going like this. These aren’t isolated incidents of a few idiots. The acts of bigotry are more aggressive than ever. The truth is Blacks are completely outnumbered and are in danger on this campus. The Administration was warned 5 years ago. Everything has built up to now.

  3. this is happening because everyone made a huge deal over the compton cookout. this is either a student who is tired of all the unnecessary commotion or its a BSU student/supporter doing this to get their bullshit list of demands met.

    • Exactly. I think this is a fake intended to cause even more disturbances.

    • Finally, someone is actually thinking logically!

    • a man who means what he says and says what he means

      doesn’t matter what the reasoning is behind it. THERE IS NEVER A NEED TO HANG A NOOSE! finally someone is thinking logically?? there is no logic in it at all. think about what you trying to say before you write it before you talk about logic please

      • “Finally, someone is actually thinking logically!” was a reply to what blahhhh said “this is happening because everyone made a huge deal over the compton cookout. this is either a student who is tired of all the unnecessary commotion or its a BSU student/supporter doing this to get their bullshit list of demands met.” The logic was about what blahhhh said, not about the act of hanging the noose. That is why it was listed UNDER blahhhh’s comment.

        Why don’t you practice what you preach and PLEASE think before you write, oh Smart One !

      • That said, I absolutely agree with you that THERE IS NEVER A NEED TO HANG A NOOSE. Whoever did it was a very self-serving idiot.

  4. Maybe it will, it seems to me that it’s more of an inflammatory action to goad the population in response to what is perceived as BSU’s exaggerated reaction to the compton cookout.

  5. Agreeing with captain crunch. I don’t think this is a legitimate threat. More of a statement… albeit an extremely inappropriate one. Guy running around PC screaming for his life was a bit over dramatic…This is getting way out of hand. Don’t give these people attention & it will pass soon enough.

  6. I trully believe this is just the koala, or other people of equal retardation… I think the reaction is necessary but i also believe that an overreaction just fuels the flaims… And in reality… I think we are starting to fuel the flaims…

  7. Look at the picture. Its the same black guy that allows appears whenever there is a camera around. I wouldnt be surprised if he is planning this stuff and planting it himself for more attention

  8. This is disheartening.

  9. Yeah, I thought the reaction to the original cookout was a bit overblown initially but I’m actually appalled at this.
    Somehow, though, I still hope (and perhaps naively believe) that this wasn’t the work of someone who was actually racist, but rather because some idiot somewhere thinks it’s fucking hilarious to soil a school’s reputation and get a rise out of people.
    I can hope, right? People aren’t racist, they’re just incredibly stupid and misguided.
    :(

  10. This shows ignorance and stupidity. This act of racism will not be tolerated. This has to stop and we as the UC students must end this prejudice, because if we don’t fight it it will only spread to other UC’s. The fight against racism in the UC system starts right now.

  11. Probably a protester

    I really think its a protester trying to instigate something more because this is not the south and this is the west coast… this doesn’t have the same effect as it would in the south.

  12. I mean this is a racist act I agree 100000%, the guy or girl that did this must be reprimanded in some way, however I dont think there is racism in the UC SYSTEM… that is an absurd statement. The people that did this are looking for attention. The Koala sees this as a huge joke a publicity stunt. Any reaction they can get out of the student body just brings them more and more spotlight… and people who are stupid enough to do this, think “any publicity is good publicity”. And right now they are getting alot of publicity

  13. San Diego has one of the highest concentrations of white supremacist groups in California as does Riverside County
    http://www.rickross.com/reference/hate_groups/hategroups242.html

    Not saying that this was done by the Aryan Nation or KKK. But anyone who does this to strike fear is no different.

  14. As a proud student at UCSD, I’m very disappointed to see this. Compton Cookout was seen as racist act and could have been understood but this noose thing has gone TOO Far. TOO FAR.

  15. No racism in the UC system right? How many Black professors are there at UCSD right now? In 2006 there were none. They are not welcome at UCSD.

    • Do you actually need any?

    • I wouldn’t go as far as to say that African-American professors are not welcome at the UC system but I will laugh in the face of anyone that says racism doesn’t exist in CA or the UC system. Just look at the numbers. UCSD has one of the lowest percentages of minorities going to their school. It’s not unreasonable to feel threatened when the numbers are that low.

      I’m still astonished that some people don’t perceive this as a threat or understand why this is such a serious issue.

      • actually, ucsd has a very high percentage of minority students. in fact, fewer than 30% of students at UCSD are white.
        asians and hispanics are minority groups too, you know.

      • Proposition 209 eliminating affirmative action in state institutions was the smartest thing our politicians have done in decades. How does it help to admit students into a school where they are unable to compete, or even to graduate? It would waste their time and, mean while, crush their self esteem. I strongly believe that it would be kinder to let them get admitted to an institution where they can actually learn and eventually build a better life for themselves. If only 2 percent of students–and 1 percent of professional faculty–at UCSD are Black, I would say they definitely need to work harder. Just how far do you want to take this? Force the professors to give all Black students free A’s? Why not give them the free diplomas of their choosing and skip the education part all together? Oh, and while you are at it, magically turn them into “professional faculty” also !! That would be a sure way to raise your statistics !!

      • completely agree with thao vu.

        if you can’t get in, TRY HARDER. i dont understand how YOU can say that we should admit more black professors/students. thats called affirmative action aka favoritism. you can’t just favorite a race just because they’re not good enough.

      • some other school

        Thao Vu,
        I would like you to consider what you’re implying…

        -Basically: Blacks, try harder.

        Do you know of anything called CUMULATIVE disadvantage?

        You may be privileged enough to be able to attend school, have some guidance in your life and whatnot, but whose to say one should try harder….

        the system is messed up and people should consider that rather than blame it on the individual(s) for so-called putting it on themselves.

        Try harder? I think you should consider trying harder to understand the struggles of others and the obstacles.

        The problem is assessing society and providing more opportunities for minority groups to excel.

    • I know of at least one african-american professor at UCSD in 2006, a professor of organic chemistry I believe. His name was Dr. Joseph Watson. Of course by 2006 he was no longer in his role as professor. He had risen to Vice Chancellor Student Affairs, showing just how unwelcome african americans are at UCSD…
      He worked on campus for 40 years… rising to the most senior vice chancelor on campus.

      Read about him here:
      http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/thisweek/2006/oct/10_16_watson.asp

  16. it’s probably best to erase the student shown on the picture.

  17. Probably a protester

    I really don’t think this little noose would strike that much fear if there are thousands of protestors backing them up.

  18. I can’t help but wonder what would’ve happened had he simply removed the noose and not brought it to public attention.

    Then the terrorism would have failed maybe?

  19. This is what happens when a mob takes advantage of a situation to promote a political agenda.

    Anyone who goes to UCSD knows that the school is actually amazingly diverse with cultures from all over the world. However the hateful accusation of a select group of students attempting to extort funding have led peaceful students to rebel against the mob with racist symbols and hate.

    I strongly urge those against the protests to not make a bad situation worse. I urge those protesting to simmer down, quit attacking the frats, and the graffiti, and lashing out at the administration and have a peaceful debate.

    We all go to the school, the point has been made, now lets calm down, stop throwing stones at each other and talk.

  20. whoever it was knew exactly what they were doing. To the person who said it was probably a member of BSU, no offense to u but u are speaking from ignorance. Any person of color knows what hate and horrible history a noose has. So to the students at UCSD you have the support of CSU East Bay. We all need to come together to fight against this hatred.

    • You are a bigot and you are the one being ignorant. Learn to look at things from more than one viewpoint. Any person of color knows what a noose stands for, and what better way for them to escalate the current situation and have their demands met by the administration than by using that to their own advantage? We will never know who did it,and we can only speculate but don’t be so quick to conclusion.

  21. thats what i think captn, i mean i was thinkin to myself why let people know, just get rid of it act like nothing happened.. that way no hysteria for no reason

  22. Probably a protester

    how do you know they aren’t welcome at ucsd. You seem to stereotype the whole administration won’t welcome them because they are white. Just because some are white doesn’t mean they are racists.

  23. ಠ_ಠ
    This is not good.

  24. Obviously this was meant to provoke a violent reaction from the BSU. If the BSU responds radically and violently, the noose culprits will only be getting what they want. It will only make the entire situation worse.
    I really don’t want to be a ucsd student anymore.

  25. Probably a protester

    If someone that did not like African Americans really did this.. wouldn’t they know that , theres just going to be more support from the community that support African Americans.

  26. What we’re seeing with this noose thing is terrorism. There’s all kinds of motivations for something like this, one could be we simply have a sociopath who’s getting off on the chaos they’re creating.

  27. Obviously this was meant to provoke a violent reaction from the BSU and/or the black community. If the BSU responds radically and violently, the noose culprits will only be getting what they want. It will only make the entire situation worse. Clearly this is a serious and scary issue for everyone, but I would strongly urge all ucsd students to not to take this bait. After all, “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” MLK

    • k fair enough but it’s not ok to say “calm down bsu” because that’s tacitly accepting (or at least minimizing the total unacceptability) someone hanging a noose. the best thing to come out of this would be the realization that people who think it’s ok, cool, funny, or whatever to put a fucking noose in a public space (an incredibly historic, fear-inducing tactic in this country especially) are our peers. then, what are we doing to educate ourselves to create welcoming communities? part of creating a welcoming community is actively opposing hateful and discriminatory forces.

  28. If he removed it, it would just be hiding the truth, and that’s not the response we need right now when we’re trying to get the administration to do real action, as well as showing students that this is a SERIOUS issue.

  29. Was that an RSO or a campus police officer in the original picture? I hope the authorities were notified.

  30. “This is what happens when a mob takes advantage of a situation to promote a political agenda.

    Anyone who goes to UCSD knows that the school is actually amazingly diverse with cultures from all over the world. However the hateful accusation of a select group of students attempting to extort funding have led peaceful students to rebel against the mob with racist symbols and hate.

    I strongly urge those against the protests to not make a bad situation worse. I urge those protesting to simmer down, quit attacking the frats, and the graffiti, and lashing out at the administration and have a peaceful debate.

    We all go to the school, the point has been made, now lets calm down, stop throwing stones at each other and talk.”

    Yes! I agree!

  31. I was kinda just thinkin’ out loud there… it’s a little ambiguous as I wonder if the presence of the noose presents a clear and present danger to the black students of our university or if it’s antagonistic in nature…

    Given the context and the history associated with nooses I’d like to think.. well I’d like to think it doesn’t represent a real tangible threat. Although I’d prefer to err on the side of caution… so… it’s a real threat? hm…

    I just hate making a mountain out of a mole hill… I think an investigation is in order. Anyone know if geisel has cameras? I thought it did.

    • important questions to ask. what about this one too: what does the university’s/ucsd community’s reaction tell us? saying/hoping “it’s not that big of a deal” overlooks the history of our society where mainstream society has used these kinds of threats to keep communities excluded. if “it’s not that big of a deal”, then that means that it’s not important to create a safe environment for students. is that what the campus community is comfortable saying??

  32. Probably a protester

    I am wondering that too.. because whoever did that should be punished.. since it was done ON CAMPUS.

  33. I changed my mind. I’m considering the noose a real threat.

  34. @ captain crunch.. the update on this site says there were no camera’s near the incident however the police are collecting DNA which will be rendered useless unless the the culprit has a criminal history.

  35. lovepeacehappiness

    This is a cry out for attention, and someone obviously trying to create a bigger and worse situation. This will soon be old news, but we should all take a second to learn from this. UCSD students affected by the current situations have the support of UCR students…we will be with you every step.

  36. From what I wiki’d it qualifies as a hate crime. Though, I’m at a loss as to how to defuse the situation… :/

  37. what i dont understand is if this happened at midnight, how is there already a protest taking place at 8am the following morning? how do you assemble one that quickly this late at night?

    • That is because it’s highly probable that the protesters did this to get more attention and to extort even more money. All those funding demands during the middle of the biggest financial crisis UCSD has ever seen! I am speechless! Why ask for money when you supposedly want justice ?

      • Yeah. Anyway – weren’t the recent noose incidents mostly hoaxes? Like with that black professor who was to be fired because of her plagiarizing other people’s work and lo and behold! a noose mysteriously appeared on the door of her room. Much screeching on institutional racism ensued, but no one was accused and she was let go after all.
        Interesting point though – there was a camera in the corridor, police analyzed it, but no one was told what it recorded.

    • I’m outraged to this reaction. Really, the most logical situation you can think of for how students got organized is that they must have been the perpetrators? Please. Rethink that statement. Maybe it’s the outrage an anger that students feel on the campus. Maybe it’s the alert many students have been on. Please step off your entitled and annonymous soap box for just one moment to comprehend the situation.

  38. well, consider the way the youth in Iran were organizing against their gov’t last year: Twitter, text etc… call people you know and stuff.

  39. @captain: not sure what California law is but it definitely isn’t protected under the first amendment.

  40. People have to understand racism is not restricted to individual prejudice ( i hate black people, i hate white people, etc.), it’s something that is integrated within the system, within how institutions operate, within how geography is demarcated and segregated racially and often by class, within corporations that act as neocolonialists and slave masters through the exploitation by the labor of third world peoples, within the certain kinds of roles certain people can and cannot go in, and finally it’s within the minds of how we understand the world, who belongs where, where this piece of land is, the kinds of “things” certain people do and what certain people don’t do. In this case, Compton Cookout is reflective of the generation we live and it’s definitely not a post-racial society. I say it’s a society of denial and propaganda with this “color-blindness” syndrome or trend. Wake up!

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  42. when this whole thing started, i didn’t really care much for the matter besides the fact that it sucks it’s happening. now, with the whole noose thing, i seriously feel unsafe here in campus just because this is escalating so much in such a short amount of time. i mean, what’s next?!

  43. I agree with the fact that this was meant to provoke BSU, given the way they reacted to a party i expect them to be all over this even if this was just one person wanting attention. Common sense will not prevail.

  44. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=1820165739+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

    11411. (a) Any person who hangs a noose, knowing it to be a symbol
    representing a threat to life, on the property of another, without
    authorization, for the purpose of terrorizing the owner or occupant
    of that private property or in reckless disregard of the risk of
    terrorizing the owner or occupant of that private property, or who
    hangs a noose, knowing it to be a symbol representing a threat to
    life, on the property of a primary school, junior high school, high
    school, college campus, public park, or place of employment, for the
    purpose of terrorizing any person who attends or works at the school,
    park, or place of employment, or who is otherwise associated with
    the school, park, or place of employment, shall be punished by
    imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by a fine
    not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000), or by both the fine and
    imprisonment for the first conviction or by imprisonment in a county
    jail not to exceed one year, or by a fine not to exceed fifteen
    thousand dollars ($15,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment for
    any subsequent conviction.

  45. You know it, redlining and stuff like that.

    So much for that beauty and the beast moral I bought into as I was growing up :/

    I always get a weird chuckle when people say ‘this is 20xx, come on’… lol the 60′s weren’t that long ago. Heck, it wasn’t that long ago that Italians, Slavs, Irish, and Catholics weren’t proper white people either. : (

  46. @Andy – thanks for the info :)

  47. Justice will prevail, I can feel it. Tell those reading the Koala in public that they are supporting Racism. Tell them in a voice that is clear and loud. This will only end when we make a cultural change. Oh and by the way, there was an enormous mixed crowd that gathered in support of the BSU’s walkout and I was among them. I have no fear to name myself, and when you are on the right side, neither will you.

  48. Shane Conner, in disbelief

    For all those commenting, saying why make it a big deal and cause hysteria? Then how would the message of hatred go out to the public. By letting go what they did, we are condoning such acts of bigotry. If great civil rights activist had that same mentality, there would be no civil rights activism. How dare you say that is should just have been hushed over, so that UCSD can maintain a pure reputation, and allow those idiots to feel accomplished. How dare you think that UCSD’s reputation is more important than the lives affected. You don’t understand the significance of such a thing to an African American, and yet you accuse BSU for planting such an atrocity. How dare you.

    • Here is why we shouldn’t make it a big deal.

      Initial Act: Party
      Offensive but not really racist since the target was not hate but just college students being dumbasses

      Response: Media blowing it out of proportion

      Response : Protesters trying to take away civil liberties in the name of good

      Response: N word used by UCSD media
      An overly offensive act sparking more hate.

      Response: Shutting down free speech at UCSD

      Response: Hanging a Noose
      A criminal act

      ….

      If this keeps going then we are going to get true hate acts on our hands, from both sides.

      • I agree ! Soon, the opportunists would be all over the place, politicians, people who want funding, you name it… !!

  49. Oh yea, I might know who is responsible for that Noose the police should call me. 619-252-4752

  50. Crystal Orozco-Gamboa

    To whoever wrote the note, I wanted to say that the wording is a bit confusing when it reads “Note: We’ve cropped the picture, as to not reveal the individual’s identity who was in the picture. Some have expressed fear that this individual would targeted, we apologize, we meant no harm in posting the picture and recognize the issues that it brings.
    ” THIS MAY SEEM LIKE THE PERSON BEING CROPPED OUT IS THE CULPRIT. THE PERSON CROPPED OUT OF THIS PICTURE WAS AN INNOCENT STUDENT AT UCSD WHOSE NAME AND FACE WAS TAKEN OUT FOR SAFETY.

    ALSO, 8 AM OUTSIDE OF GEISEL TODAY THERE WILL BE A CALL FOR DIRECT ACTION AS ALL SUPPORTERS GATHER TOGETHER. WE URGE YOU TO COME AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT AND PLEASE WEAR BLACK! thanks

  51. to those who are throwing suspicions at the individual who was in the picture as having a part in it.. my friend was in the elevator while that individual was in the elevator. he was on the phone talking to his family, grief stricken, and shocked, and almost to tears. you can’t fake emotions like that.

    real pain guys…

  52. If you have info that will HELP the investigation,
    UCSD PD:
    Telephone: (858) 534-4357
    Chief of Police Orville King, (858) 534-4360
    Police Captains
    Tom Morris, (858) 534-2228
    David Rose, (858) 534-4358

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  56. I think this is all a set up. I was at PC when that guy came in screaming about the noose in geisel. That was around 12:30am. Geisel closes at 12. So he would actually see it, take a picture with it, then come yell about it in PC? And his tone sounded more like he was giving a speech rather than scared.

  57. The Koala was not involved in this. All of the members were in the Koala office or at the Pub when this occurred.

  58. I would like to ask something. Does it seem that many actions and negative attitudes stemming from opposing sides of the movement might encourage racial conflict rather than promote unity throughout the school in its struggles against prejudice? Shouldn’t we be promoting solidarity through the mixed support of all races in this struggle, acknowledging that we are indeed in a common struggle together? I do not mean to criticize the movement in any way, but I am wondering if maybe some actions taken throughout the protest, such as only wearing black, actually divide the school rather than bring it together. I understand the need for the black community to be strong and unified, but perhaps it is time now to move forward as a campus, instead of as a single ethnic group, to fight against these struggles. This is a battle against racism that every person of every race can relate with one way or the other, and yet it seems as though this movement has instead become a battle between opposing views among students, causing more problems than it solves. I am not saying we should be complacent. Rather, the movement should be promoted in a light that supports all campus diversity, and in this way we can all make progress in social justice for every race. Indeed, the Koala did not only target African Americans, but nearly every other group that could be stereotyped. I do not, in any way, mean to undermine the great social struggles of black Americans today or in the past, but rather encourage us to stand beside each other, regardless of race, for the purposes of equality and justice.

    • The protests are specifically targeting the Compton Cookout, the Koala broadcast that used the n-word, and the administration’s passive response to these events.

      It would be nice to bring the Koala down but that is not what these protests are about. African Americans were specifically targeted by the Compton Cookout and by the Koala’s SRTV broadcast and that is the issue that the protest should focus on. As other people have stated, the spontaneous protest that occurred during the teach-in was included students of all ethnicities. I have not received the impression from the BSU that they are discouraging specific races from joining them in their protest and I don’t think that people who really care about equality and justice care that the t-shirts are black.

    • I think people are wearing black as they often have in protests for decades, not as some marker of the aggrieved population, which is what you seem to be implying.

      Also, the reality is that students of all backgrounds ARE uniting to confront this racism. This is hardly a case of white vs. black, it’s affecting the whole campus and people *are* trying to strive for racial unity, while at the same time dealing with the fact that many students unapologetically still defend the actions of the party organizers and Koala.

      While the Koala has maligned nearly every other ethnic group in the past, the show aired on campus TV specifically targeted black students in a hateful manner, and I think you can’t overlook that.

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  61. This is absolutely appalling. I love Geisel. I can’t believe someone would go and put something so hateful in there. Or well. Actually, given the recent events (which, in my opinion, are rapidly spiraling out of control) it’s not so unbelievable. Especially given the history of the Koala to do unbelievably insensitive, dumb, and crazy things like this.

    But to whomever asked how dare we think at all of UCSD’s reputation over the lives of those affected… While I definitely agree that the lives of those affected are more important than UCSD’s rep, I don’t think, as students, we should completely disregard reputation. Maybe I’m being selfish. I probably am. But. Seeing as how I’m graduating from UCSD, and I will forever be a student of UCSD, I don’t want people automatically assuming that, because I come from a campus that had a couple of racist idiots who started the whole damn thing, that I am racist too. I don’t want people generalizing that the whole university hates diversity and African Americans, because that’s not true. I’m not going to lie when I say that part of the reason why I’m going to the rallies and protests is to show people that no, not all of UCSD thinks that, so please don’t think we do. This whole racism thing affects our entire community, is all I’m saying.

    And how dare we ask why make it a big deal and cause hysteria? Because I don’t think hysteria will solve anything. Hysteria causes people to not think. Then you just become a large, angry mob. I agree that this is a big deal. Especially the noose. I didn’t think as much before about the Compton Cookout. But I believe instead of hysteria, we should stand together, united. Putting people into hysterics, making people feel afraid… isn’t that what they want? Let’s not give it to them. To those people who are afraid: let us walk with you, together.

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  63. All students of color out of UCSD now!! Enough is Enough!!! No more. They wanted trouble, well they got more than they bargained for…

  64. We’ve officially been set back 50 years; Everything inbetween then and now has been factored out. This saddens me.

  65. I truly do not believe that any person who is not racist would put this up, as mentioned before nooses have a horrible conotation and even give me chills. To the person who argued that it was the “same black guy as in all the pictures” think about it, there are only certain percent of african american people at ucsd so it makes sense for the same people to be coming out in pictures, also to the people who are “optimistici” and think that Racism does not exist, the truth is that it does, i see it everyday in my life! i understand your point of view however we cannot go on pretending that this is a color blind society, the numbers show it all this is not a diverse university and it happenned for a reason. =/. I stand in solidarity with all the UCSD students, because i dont think this is a black issue this is a human issue, lets stand together people!

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  67. don’t fuel the flames with drama

    but keep your eyes open

    and your voice clear

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  70. We had this at usd a couple years ago. one thing i know for sure, this is DEFINITELY not a protester who put this up, and this is a serious concern. why is it so hard for people at ucsd to just believe the students, they have the right to attend the university which attracts them academically, and feel safe and respected there

  71. People must recognize that the West coast has had its own set of racialized policies that are similar to that of what we think of the South. We must get out of the mindset that segregation is strictly a “Southern” policy.

    Look around, our own neighborhoods are segregated. (Redlining).

    As an alumni of UCSD and a student, womyn of color, I remember it was hard to feel safe on that campus. Which is what the students are demanding, a change in campus climate.

    The student activist on campus are calling for structural change and not a band-aid fix to the historical inequities that have plagued the UCs and other “ivory towers”.

    We must act, and we must act now for this change to happen. How much more needs to happen before the administrators take real action?

    I commend the student activist, community supporters, staff, and faculty for their amazing work. Thank you for your continuous efforts and love for justice.

    In Solidarity,

    Mary

  72. You want to know WHY there’s a fucking noose? Not because anyone wants to kill blacks. It’s the same reason somebody made a Compton Cookout II event – as a counterprotest to the enormous deal being made over a dumb party and perceived breaches of freedom of speech. Does that mean I think it’s OK? Absolutely not, it’s downright malicious.

    But if the school had just disciplined the students and that were the end of it, none of this would be happening, I’m sure of it. A combination of “teach ins”, protests, and ironically enough counterprotests have made this situation more than just a party held by fraternity dumbasses. This has just escalated out of control, and I don’t think the original people were to blame for what this has caused, just for a lack of tact. It’s the people who choose to see this as a reason to get all excited and run around screaming “KKK” that are to blame – and they’ve now gotten what they wanted. Now someone’s put a noose up because of them.

    I hope they’re happy, because the school wasn’t an unsafe environment to begin with, that was just their victim mentality. It’s only now that it becoming this way….

  73. bet my last dollar that this was done by a black student to raise the flames a bit higher. and why has this jiggaboo jones fella been put to the wayside, when he is very convincing that he was behind the compton cookout? he even has his picture on the facebook page. why is it that this so insulting, yet the wayans brothers can make white chicks, and make fun of white stereotypes, and it is completely fine?

    • CSULB student here, in solidarity with our sisters and brothers from the BSU and all anti-fascist student allies mobilizing atUCSD.

  74. This is absolutely disgusting. I would expect so much more from students enrolled in an institution of higher learning. when will this madness end?? administration needs to do something and do something NOW because it starts with us Blacks and will continue with LGBT, hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, etc.

    students of color at UCSD: you are not alone you have the complete support of UCR, and the students of other UCs in the system, 10000000000%. Continue on with your education!

    REAL pain. REAL Action.

  75. “a counterprotest to the enormous deal being made over a dumb party and perceived breaches of freedom of speech. ”
    “This has just escalated out of control, and I don’t think the original people were to blame for what this has caused, just for a lack of tact. It’s the people who choose to see this as a reason to get all excited and run around screaming “KKK” that are to blame – and they’ve now gotten what they wanted. Now someone’s put a noose up because of them.”

    THANK YOU. Exactly.

  76. The noose. So, what exactly will the excuses be for this cowardly act that brings up memories of the confederate KKK of the South in their attempts to keep slavery and the non-whites in fear? Is it that are uneducated, is it that they are live in fear because our President in the white house is not 100% white. This is what the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. These kids follow what their dullard leaders say. Are you surprise at what they do when you know what they think?

  77. I’m really shocked by some of your failure to see this as racism. Nooses were historically used to kill black people and that powerful punch isn’t gone. This is a real threat and the administration does need to take some sort of action. This should not be spiraling out of control the way that it is. Chancellor needs to get up and do something now before this goes any further.

    Like the above poster said, you have UCR’s support and be sure to keep us posted through facebook, twitter, whatever. We will be there to support you.

  78. Why is this perceived racism automatically blamed on the whites?

    When I walk around UCSD’s campus, I see just as many Asians as anything else. UCSD a racist school? Right…..

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  80. Wow, this is really unfortunate and very ignorant on the part of the person or people who committed this act. I completely agree with your list of demands and a need for the UCSD administration/ UC Regents to take serious action. It is utterly ridiculous to pay for an education and attend classes at an institution where such acts of hatred and ignorance are blatantly disregarded by the schools administration.

    These kinds of actions have a way of coming back on the people or persons, believe me.

    In accord with my fellow UCR Student above, UCSD students of color, you really do have our support. Keep fighting!

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  82. all of you MORONS who think there was an “overreaction” to the Compton Cookout ARE OBVIOUSLY NEITHER BLACK, NOR FROM COMPTON. How dare students make a mockery out of a people, a place, and a facet of our society that they DO NOT understand and are not familiar with, yet help to contribute to and perpetuate by these inappropriate, stereotypical, insensitive acts. The Koala’s use of the term “ungrateful nig***s” is UNACCEPTABLE and INEXCUSABLE. Hanging a noose in the library is THREATENING and malicious. If you think that students throughout the country will not stand in solidarity to ensure that accountability and action are taken, then you are mistaken. IF YOU THINK THAT RACISM NO LONGER EXISTS AMID THE STUDENT POPULATION, THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA’S SYSTEM AND PRACTICES, OR SOCIETY AT LARGE, THEN YOU ARE MISTAKEN AND IGNORANT AS WELL. Go take advantage of your ethnic/minority studies classes. STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, IRVINE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN SAN DIEGO. WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL PROPER ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.

  83. Fear and Bloating in San D

    You know what disgusts me? Words like ivory tower, or lists of people that are going to be targeted next, which lists every race but Caucasian. On a campus where whites aren’t even a majority, why are we the bad guys? I’m a poor white kind from a poor family and a poor town. I lived in a ghetto, got beat up for being white, felt the sting of racism at an early age. Did it make me hate other races? Maybe for a little while but you lose it with age. It really taught me how to laugh at myself and to always check my sources before I go flying off the handle.
    Do I think the Compton cookout was racist? Well, I think it can be taken that way for sure. But who doesn’t like getting to go to a party where you can make fun of how ridiculous stereotypes are? Who hasn’t gone to a nerd party, or a toga party, or white trash party? Did you hate nerds, greeks, or honkies? I doubt you did.
    But now we have an issue where someone’s political agenda is being pushed by an incident that really didn’t warrant it. Like when we were bombed by one country but we went and eradicated another one. As a result, now we have a noose on campus. Wow, deep, depending on why it was placed. Those of you who say it wasn’t put there by a BSU supporter are full of it. Those of you who think it was a KKK like group are full of it too. Know why? Because we probably won’t ever know . And logically, both makes sense. It might just have been a student who was trying to show how extreme the other side is and how ridiculous it would seem to actually lynch someone. That doesn’t happen on our campus, we don’t hate. These events are trying to make us, and its bogus. I have never been afraid on campus until now, nor have I ever been ashamed of my campus until now. We are fighting the very people who give us what we have. Why? No one was mad until an off campus party took place where there may have been ucsd students. Where was your anger and fear before that?
    This is going to end very badly, and I’m not looking forward to it.

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  85. Someone confessed this morning to hanging the noose…

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/feb/26/noose-protest-ucsd/

  86. Good God, what a tempest in a teacup! You would think there was a dead body hanging from the noose.

    I would bet my bottom dollar that when the culprit is found, he or she is a member of the black students group that is pressuring the administration to admit more black students. Think about it:
    - The noose is symbolic of racism directed at blacks, it has no significance for chicanos
    - There was a large, noisy black contingent pressing for political favor
    - There was no white group opposing it (for all the screaming about “racism”, the whites are silent, except to scream “racism!”), so they are unlikely to be the source
    - The photo apparently originally showed a black activist near the noose, so they are suspiciously interested.

    When solving a whodunit, the question is, “cui bono?” Who benefits? The black students do.

    The noose stuff is hugely overblown. Making a crime out of this is ridiculous. Nobody has been lynched in this country in fifty years, and there is no serious prospect of lynching starting up again. The noose is nothing more than a college prank.

  87. Ed, the use of capitols does not convey your point any more clearly. I would like to point out that the citizens of the United States of America have freedom of speech, press, and assembly. These have all been exercised in the past week. “ungrateful nig***s” is indeed offensive, but we must accept it. We do not have to agree with it, or support the idea, but we must support the right of people to publish it. If you would ignore the first amendment, what is to keep others from ignoring the 13th?

  88. If a house burns down, it doesn’t really matter whether it was arson or an accident. The fact is that a house was burnt. So paint this situation however you like. View it in whatever light you may. Call it bad humor, idiotic behavior or plain ignorance. The fact still remains that the three acts in question at UCSD are acts of RACISM. The latest act being the most despicable of them all.

    I would hope that it is not a surprise to people that racism still exists in the US of A. In a decade that saw the election of the first black President of America… yes RACISM still exists.

    My problem is that I would not expect a University, a place of higher learning, that should be the melting pot of intellect at its highest, to house and condone the actions of a few students, who clearly do not have the ability to reason and understand that their insensitive actions can hurt other people and affect the quality education for other students.

    If the students who threw and attended that party had any kind of wisdom, they would have issued an apology (even if anonymous). Not that an apology would rescue a situation that has been in the making at least 7 years (since I was at UCSD) but it would have at the least helped to keep the situation from raging uncontrollably.

    I don’t think any black person (or any minority for that matter) could feel safe on the UCSD campus, if this situation continues and there is no surer way to mess up your education than being uncomfortable in your learning environment.

    The solution is dialogue and action intermingled. The administration needs to sit down with students and reps from the student organizations and hash out a policy of intolerance to racist actions such as these and put forward a plan, as much as is in the schools power, to make every student feel welcome at UCSD.

    • You are right, RACISM does exist in the U S of A and the Whites are being discriminated against !! I can see it clearly, and I am Asian !! Wake up people, stop blaming everyone but yourself for your shortcomings !!

      • Your point is taken.

        Nobody is blaming anyone here. All that is being said is the actions were Racist. The University Administration needs deal with it.

        I’m sure nobody doubts that Whites have been discriminated against too but thats not the point. The point is that RACISM at any level should not be rearing its ugly head at this point in time in America and definitely not in our Universities.

        RACISM was not defined with the black race in mind so we know that it affects everyone and of course it should not be used as a tool for blackmailing anyone to reduce any academic standards for any race.

        I’m sure the whites and asians that have experienced racism or discrimination can understand why this situation needs to be addressed. That is the issue here. The University administration is not taking any substantial action to address the situation on campus. I appreciate that they may be doing their best at this point but they need to work harder faster to get this under control and assure all students of their safety on campus.

  89. some African-Americans (AA) are doing poorly in HS which prevents them from going to a good college, some dont even want to go to college. Blame them for that, its in the statistics. Also AA’s tend to be involved in crimes, thats where some of your population is at, not in colleges.

    i dont think the party was meant to be racist. we could stereotype these frats as being stupid partiers, and for that how could we blame them at fail party planning. i dont think they realized it was black history month.

    i would certainly favor BSU for wanting something done to these frats if i know for sure they meant this party to be racist. and to know the result of that, we’d have to strap them in to lying detectors

    • The event starts with in celebration of Black History Month…

      But this isn’t about just that anymore. In fact it’s never been just about the party.

  90. Aww… white people don’t want to be associated with a negative image so let’s save face for UCSD… how tragic it must be for you all to be wrongly labeled as racist for something as trivial as having gone to a school with “a couple of racist idiots”… how wrong it is for us to make a negative blanket statement of your race over one thing…

    GET OVER YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE!

    • “how wrong it is for us to make a negative blanket statement of your race over one thing” ….

      You bet it is wrong to do that, it’s called stereotyping and racism. It’s so sad that you accused others of being exactly what you are !!!

      • I assumed that “Pissed Off” is black because he/she wrote

        “Aww… white people don’t want to be associated with a negative image so let’s save face for UCSD… how tragic it must be for you all to be wrongly labeled as racist for something as trivial as having gone to a school with “a couple of racist idiots”… how wrong it is for us to make a negative blanket statement of your race over one thing…

        GET OVER YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE!”

        Please note the connection between the words “you/your” with the word “white” as well as what that person claimed in connection with the word “us”. “Pissed Off” is a Black racist.

    • The fact that you just assumed that it was a white person who made this comment shows your ignorance as well! One might even call it a little racist (which isn’t exclusive to whites, for the record).

  91. You guys this is a HOAX perpetrated by the very people that are protesting the “Compton Party”.

    This tactic is right from the “race-baiter playbook”. 1st…call all whites on Campus “rascist”. 2nd…stage a “rascist prop” (noose, burning cross, etc). 3rd…cry out how much you feel threatened, scared , intimidated, etc. 4th…enjoy lower admission standards, sympathy and free handouts from academic leftys with White Guilt. (Repeat as necessary)

  92. You people are clearly ignorant and I feel truly sorry that you are stupid to realize tht this was an act of racism. This is not okay and to say a black person did this to gain more attention makes you seem absolutely freakin ridiculous. I pray tht God forgive you all for being so racist and ignorant of the fact tht Black people built this country. Without slavery this world would not be as economically successful at it is today. But because skin color matters so much to everyone, your too damn stupid to read and actually find out about the history of our country. To the person tht said white people out number blk people, wht the hell does tht have to do with anything? If a blk person dressed up as a white person and said we are having a party were we want everyone to dress as homosexuals, cannibals, have incest relationships, shoot up schools, overdose on drugs, eat bland food. Then white people would want to say some bullshit. I am not for black, white or race bull, but God will personally deal with each of you. God bless

    • Yeah, GOD takes sides, right?!?! and Black people built this country ?!?! So, are you saying that all other races in the US are just mooching off the fruit of the Black Labor ? and you are complaining about racism ?!?! Heh heh, congratulation! that’s the funniest thing I have read all day today.

  93. I wonder how the school would react if minorites on campus had a “cracker cookout” and told everyone to dress up like bernie madolf, the enron CEO’s, martha stewart? it would be a totally different story. might even be some expulsions already…UCSD admins are pathetic. take action instead of just speaking against shit…at least suspend the frat from campus damn

  94. Racism does not exist?!

    For everyone saying that…are you kidding me?come on this is clearly an act of racism.

    My heart goes out to all my brothers and sisters of color @ SD.UCSB is with y’ll!

  95. This is completely uncalled for….and the ucsd students that are defending these goons that think this is a laughing matter your just as racist as the people who put on this party…i had high regards for ucsd and after this i will NEVER step foot on your campus again! let alone regard your school with high esteem

    • let there be love

      Please see the big picture. Every institution has its bad apples!!! I’m sure the administration is doing everything it can to calm the situation!!! I’m a student here and i love it. I myself am a minority on campus and I never felt threatened. I see these acts as stupid ignorant people being stupid… thats the reason I’m going to college, to better myself and to be the bright future of this country!!! I am disgusted by the acts of these individuals but I still support my school! Im sorry if you are offend but by you losing faith in this institution you are helping these idiots in their goal to bring us good UCSD students down. I pray that this all ends soon…

    • Hey, you are not good enough to be a UCSD student to begin with. Wake up and step off your high horse. Who are you to condemn UCSD ?

      • How do you know they aren’t good enough to attend UCSD? You really need to stop insulting people and start seeing the bigger picture. Please shut up!

      • I saw the bigger picture. UCSD is going to spend more of the money it doesn’t have on something that does not benefit a whole lot of people. Also, UCSD is going to admit a bunch of people who should not have been admitted, just because of their skin color; and reject others who should have been admitted, also because of their skin color. Now, that is a form of racism, not to say illegal. There are legal ways to challenge proposition 209, but forming a mob is definitely not one of them. That is the “bigger picture” to me, what is it to you?

    • btw UCR is at the bottom of the UC system. i would rather go to a community college than go here. no offense. i didn’t even apply there actually

  96. You people disgust me.

    This isnt the south… Racism is gone… These people are over reacting.

    These people??? These people??? You repulsive, indecent, scabs of this world, who the hell do you think you are claiming that racism is not in existence anymore?????

    Hanging a noose is not funny, nor is it in any way justifiable. It is wrong, it is a federal offense, and that idiot who thought it was a great idea should be punished severely.

    As for the compton cookout, and the Koala TV incident, SHAME ON YOU!! How dare we make excuses for any type of racism ( even racist remarks against whites). Stop being ignorant fools and open your eyes. THIS IS RACISM!!!!!!!!!!

  97. the more attention you give it the more power it has . yea the people doing this are stupid, so don;t give them power. don’t feel threatened, that’s what they want. i don’t even go to UCSD but i’ve gone to campus with my gf who goes there. and the minorities aren’t the minorities on campus from what i’ve seen

  98. Anyone who thinks this doesn’t carry the same weight in California as it does in the south is ignorant of history, indoctrinated to racist apology, and completely unaware of the kind of violence that has occurred to black people through minstrel shows, eugenics, and open lynchings throughout the entire history of the united states. Racism didn’t fucking end with Martin Luther King’s speech.

  99. go fuck yourself ucr kids

  100. Also, white people who are getting angry about people talking about white privilege and how you’re not a racist and this is to pc and we should stop whining, suck it the fuck up. to your ancestors weren’t dragged through the streets. You are statistically more likely not to have a hate crime committed against you, not to be incarcerated wrongly, to receive an education, to be able to get a loan, to live comfortably and get a job. We don’t live in a post race society, and your interpretations of the first amendment to protect your precious bigotry is telling of how ignorant you are about what people who are not white face day to day.

    • Speak for yourself only, and please watch your language. You are not doing your race any favor by acting like a vulgar idiot.
      By the way, I am not white and I am very comfortable in this country.

    • wow way to mention that asians are more of a minority in the entire country! and yet, we try hard to be successful, and thats why we dominate the UC populations. btw, im an immigrant and had to learn english from the alphabets so i know what hardships are and i have experienced PLENTY racism.

    • Until we find out that the girl who did this wasn’t white, which we already have. So . . . you have a cookout organized by a black guy to promote his DVD and a non-white woman hanging a noose in the library on a campus where whites are a small portion of the population in a state populated by an international bourgeoisie where whites are a minority-majority, and this is all an expression of . . . white power?

      Shut up.

  101. I wonder what the reaction would have been if it were Black students conducting a “Honkie Howdown”…you know…making fun of white people at party while Dressing up in outfits with proper fitting shirts (tucked in) and pressed pants from JCrew and a daily shower. The Answer: NOTHING (double standard)

    Google “University of Kent (OH) Assaults and Murders”. This was where a group of blacks violently assaulted 4 white students and killed 2 of them for no other reason than being White (Adrian Baker, Glen Jefferson and Ronald Kelly killed Christopher Kernich)

    When was the last time a black student was attacked by a group of whites? Why doesn’t the media report this act of real “rascism”? That is newsworthy information. Accoring to the FBI crime statistics…white people are 700 times more likely to get assaulted by a black then the other way around.

    Wake up Students…the Compton Cookout is not the problem. The culture that the Frat Boys “were making fun of” IS the PROBLEM. You rPolitically Correctness is fueling the problem.

  102. Racism?

    This isn’t racism. This is a bunch of stupid college kids looking to cause trouble.

    The Compton Cookout was the stupid idea of a few idiots who played with the stereotypes of blacks commonly recognized and satirized by the REST OF THE COUNTRY. Have you never seen a comedic act?

    As for the Koala, they are known troublemakers who enjoy getting under the skin of others while proclaiming their rights to free speech.

    Don’t associate the actions of a few for the actions of all the kids on campus.

    There is no racism. People are just trying to get under everyone elses’ skin and stir up trouble.

    Let’s just let this go.

  103. It was really hard to swallow all the comments about how this might have been a protester. Really??? As someone who spent many years being or supporting the protesters in similar causes I can assure you that the fear is REAL and it’s completely appalling to hear someone suggest that a noose of all things would be planted by some ‘lefty’ student to draw attention to their cause. It sickens me that students of color on campus are having to put up with all of this IN ADDITION to the daily struggle of trying to successfully get through school with what are clearly some seriously ignorant folks. Wow.

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  105. Sherry (a white student)

    The comments here are as amazing to me as the Compton Cookout, and a sign that this campus and this city are so entrenched in their view of things that something more than logic is needed to get through to them. ~~ To those of you who say a black person placed the noose just to stir up trouble, just think what it would mean if your assumption were correct. At its core, it is a statement the administration’s responses to the Compton Cookout and other events were inadequate. If someone “stirs up trouble” it means there was trouble already there, waiting to be stirred. If there were no truth and no hatred associated with this noose, it would have been a non-event. But it is an event because it means something, and what it means is black people still have reason to fear racism, and white people still believe it’s no big deal because it isn’t their lives that are affected.

    • Sherry, honey … if it does turn out to be a black student, then they were trying to smear a whole campus with something much much worse than some frat shindig. And they would do that because it would give them more leverage when they make their demands. There’s an old phrase, Sherry — Cui bono? Who benefits.

      Course as I write, all the UCSD po po has to do is to release the perp’s ethnic/racial identity. I’m giving it 50 50 its a black person, or Latino

  106. yhea fuck them n***ettes

    (this comment has been edited for racial language, please keep your comment appropriate, we will never delete or block a comment to promote open dialogue, but we will edit words we deem racially offensive and threatening)

  107. maybe someone just wanted to commit suicide and rationalized that it wasnt worth it. Then some idiot saw the noose and decided to make something out of it and sent a message to the guardian. haha

  108. let there be love

    all this talk about racism… i don’t get it were all people !!! we may have our differences but we don’t live in the middle ages anymore!!! Its almost finals week and I know everyone on campus is stressing right now I think these incidents should be the last thing we should be worried about however… These incidents are really uncalled for… can we please stop!!! OK the Compton cookout was distasteful and should have never happened (but what good can you really expect from a frat)… but all this media has escalated the tension and now people are scared!!! I hope the person who put the noose there is found and punished!!! I don’t defend these actions and I believe there should be consequences… BUT I think we should concentrate on finals first let authorities take care of the situation in the short term and continue to press the administration after the quarter ends.

  109. Oy! Unacceptable acts by UC President Yudof and his UCB Chancellor Birgeneau. $3 Million Spending by UC President Yudof for University of California Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau to Hire Consultants – When Work Can Be Done Internally & Impartially
    During the days of the Great Recession, every dollar in higher education counts. Contact Chairwoman Budget Sub-committee on Education Finance Assemblywoman Carter 916.319.2062 – tell her to stop the $3,000,000 spending by Birgeneau on consultants.
    Do the work internally at no additional costs with UCB Academic Senate Leadership (C. Kutz/F. Doyle), the world – class professional UCB faculty/ staff, & the UCB Chancellor’s bloated staff (G. Breslauer, N. Brostrom, F. Yeary, P. Hoffman, C. Holmes etc) & President Yudof.
    President Yudof’s UCB Chancellor should do the high paid work he is paid for instead of hiring expensive East Coast consults to do the work of his job. ‘World class’ smart executives like Chancellor Birgeneau need to do the hard work analysis, and make the tough-minded difficult, decisions to identify inefficiencies.
    Where do the $3,000,000 consultants get their recommendations?
    From interviewing the UCB senior management that hired them and approves their monthly consultant fees and expense reports. Remember the nationally known auditing firm who said the right things and submitted recommendations that senior management wanted to hear and fooled the public, state, federal agencies?
    $3 million impartial consultants never bite the hands (Chancellor Birgeneau/ Chancellor Yeary) that feed them!
    Mr. Birgeneau’s accountabilities include “inspiring innovation, leading change.” Instead of deploying his leadership and setting a good example by doing the work of his Chancellor’s job, Birgeneau outsourced his work to the $3,000,000 consultants. Doesn’t he engage UC and UC Berkeley people at all levels to examine inefficiencies and recommend $150 million of trims? Hasn’t he talked to Cornell and the University of North Carolina – which also hired the consultants — about best practices and recommendations that eliminate inefficiencies?
    No wonder the faculty, staff, students, Senate & Assembly are angry and suspicious.
    In today’s Great Recession three million dollars is a irresponsible price to pay when a knowledgeable ‘world-class’ UCB Chancellor and his bloated staff do not do the work of their jobs.
    Pick up the phone and call: save $3 million for students!

  110. I wish we could all get along like we used to in middle school… I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy…

  111. “Racism” is not inappropriate for college. A lot of perfectly legitimate political ideas and thoughts are buried under that term.

    “Racism” in the common parlance can mean:

    - Satire or caricature of minorities, or of policies meant to promote them
    - Avoidance of contact with persons from other races, or a preference for one’s own race in social dealings
    - Observations of conditions in the community, even correct ones, such as “blacks commit more violent crime that whites or asians”, “blacks typically do poorly in math”, or “Jews are wealthier than whites on the average”.
    - Expression of a desire to live with people of the same race, e.g. “There is a lot of Mexican immigration these days. I want the government to stop it, because I don’t want to live in a country like Mexico”.

    What is being lost is what the noose was *not*: it was not a plausible threat to lynch anyone. Nobody is going to be murdered on the seventh floor of the library, for Pete’s sake.

    So, if the noose was put there by a non-black student (I don’t presume), we can deconstruct it as follows:
    - Black students press for more black enrollment, blame the university
    - White students react by having an off-campus party, satirizing blacks. This is in my opinion an entirely legitimate social activity. Lampooning one’s opponents is a time-honored form of political speech, and whites are frequently the target of caricature on and off campus. No foul.
    - The university reacts to the party by having a brainwashing session on campus.
    - Black students, disappointed the University *is not doing more*, walk out and charge racism. Note that they are imputing evil motives to an entire class of people (non-blacks, non-Hispanics), based on the color of their skin.
    - An unknown person, reacting to the brouhaha, ties a noose on the light fixture of the library.

    *If* the person who tied the noose was not black, then it was nothing more than a misguided, symbolic rebuttal to all the heated rhetoric the black students were throwing around. It was a gesture, nothing more.

    Get over it.

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  113. Slavs have been persecuted for so long that the word “slave” was derived from their name. My family had been stripped off all their possessions under communism. The Czech Republic couldn’t move forward until the Velvet Revolution of 89. Lots of other people have suffered hardships, not just blacks. I sympathize with people that are mad about the ratio of black students and faculty, but 32 demands? The student body is using leverage to get more money during this tough economic period. Either that, or some prankster wants to get a rise out of people. The media isn’t helping. When people show solidarity with those students, it’s not helping the case. Everyone’s trying to get their cut of the funding by using whichever methods they can. Having a black student union is a divisive measure in itself. Do you see a white student union?

    I’m very familiar with UCSD as my dad is a teacher there and I can’t imagine that few(if any) people there are truly racist.

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  115. Unfortunately for Eric, and those of his ilk, the student in question broke the law plain and simple. She will be charged accordingly.

    Get over it.

  116. the girl who did this only got suspended. WHAT THE FUCK? it’s a federal crime! I SAY WE should put those racists bitches into jail

  117. im a dog eating slant eye

    • Please stop posting your an embarrassment to this dialogue.

    • Who posted “im a dog eating slant eye” using my name? Such a coward! If you disagree with someone, give a VALID rebuttal instead of posting stupid things using that person’s name OR saying meaningless things like “please stop” or “shut up”. This goes for you too, “Danny”. This forum is not reserved for those who share your view only. Grow up! Learn to listen to other points of view while defending your own in a meaningful way.
      Here is a new fact for all of us: Compton Cookout was organized by a BLACK person from Compton. This fact was carefully hidden by those who want to continue to escalate the current conflicts at UCSD, probably to further their agenda unethically. See this video if you don’t believe me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGfFSZ2kcRg

  118. U s’noose, you loose

  119. Wow…. way far away in IN, but this is heartbreaking. I hope whatever this is it’s taken care of. Is this 2010? Or did we just get thrown back to the 50s?

    My prayers are with you all. Equality shouldn’t be such an illusive ideology in this day and all.

  120. rawr! the times are all wrong.. it’s currently 10:25pm

    ..hate crimes are bad

  121. Minorities are evaluated based on the same criteria as white americans are when they apply to ucsd. There is no reason why any minority group should be given leeway in the application process.

  122. blacks are the cancer of the earth, they should all go back to AFRICA where they can pollute the land there instead of trying to destroy civilization

  123. The “noose” was found in the UCSD library by an “Afghan-American” student. I suggest one put two and two together!

  124. Here is a NEW FACT for all of us: Compton Cookout was organized by a BLACK person from Compton. This fact has been carefully concealed by those who want to continue to escalate the current conflicts at UCSD, probably to further their agenda unethically.
    See this video if you don’t believe me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGfFSZ2kcRg

    I sent this link to UCSD Administration already. I am curious to know what will happen next. Will anyone do anything with this finding? Let’s learn not to scream RACISTS too hastily. After all, let’s not forget that it was a Black mob who killed a honor Black student in Chicago recently while other Black youths stand by watching and …. recording. What do you have to say to that?!?! I really want to know what the people in this forum think about that. No judgment, no accusations, just state your opinions and facts.

    • If I said “all chinks need to be put in concentration camps and gassed”, being asian wouldn’t suddenly make my opinion valid.

      also, hay guys i know that there are a ton of studies that confirm that blacks are still the victims of widespread and systemic discrimination but one time a black person did a bad thing to an other black person. thats like just as bad, right??!?!?!

      • Of course it would not make your opinion valid at all. However, this is not the point. The point is no one should accuse white people racists for what you said.

    • I saw that video, but I’m thinking he might just be trying to exploit it for publicity. I haven’t seen any evidence to show he was responsible for the organization, whereas frat members were the ones who hosted the party and sent out the invitations.

      Just some fact-checking for though. The only word we have to go on that Jiggaboo Jones was the brainchild of the Compton Cookout is Jiggaboo Jones’ word.

      • Everything is possible, but what kind of people would exploit your race like that? Hey, I am not defending the frats here, just want to look at all available evidences.

  125. To all the posters (including Thao Vu.. ur name especially sticks out in my mind)

    You guys are dumb to think that this act should be passed off as an unthought-out act of some dumb frat boys. And I can’t believe some ppl commented that the noose incident shouldn’t be taken so seriously!! I just read the facebook invitation and it’s ABSOLUTLEY ridiculous. you don’t have to define racism (some commenter did that… smh..) to know that racism isn’t out outward hatred for a specific race- it’s the kind of behavior that’s been taking place on the UCSD campus (as a joke or whatever). obviously no one’s gonna get lynched but it’s the freakin symbol and meaning behind it………..so many ridiculous comments on this page… i can’t believe it.

    the frat needs to get suspended.. that’s the least the school can do.

    and also, some commenter (thao vu, i think) said something about prop 209 and how he’s glad affirmative action is out. i went through the application cycle 3 years ago and i distinctly remember that ucsd (and ucla) took numbers as the most important factor in admissions. berkeley, on the other hand, was the one school that looked at essays at the same level as numbers- taking in account circumstance. why shouldn’t someone who worked during high school to help his family out and couldn’t go to SAT classes cuz his parent’s could afford it, be given a chance to go to a public university?? they’re far brighter and more hard working than someone whose sole responsibility was to get A’s and a 2100.

    I’m so glad I decided to go to Berkeley. People here are open-minded and didn’t get in (generally) just because they had good grades. Honestly, it felt so good seeing people like you, Thao Vu, get rejected from Berkeley because they’re so closed minded.

    Minority students at Berkeley are FAR MORE hardworking and successful than privileged kids here who join frats and have these stupid parties.

    AND THAO VU, if you say you don’t feel any racism as an asian american. YOU’RE RIGHT! you’re NOT a freaking minority. I would hope you feel comfortable amongst the thousands of other asians on campus.

    • So, you are one of those who got in to Berkeley due to their holistic approach, an illegal get-around of affirmative action. No wonder you are so stupid. For your information, UCSD and UCLA both look at circumstances, they are just color-blind is all. For your information, I TURNED DOWN Berkeley, you idiot, for two reasons:
      1) Their Bioengineering program is INFERIOR to the one at UCSD, not to mention it is not even accredited by ABET, check it out before you assume anything. Unlike you, I got into ALL three campuses (UCSD, UCLA, and UCB) and chose UCSD because of the Bioengineering program.
      2) I don’t want to mingle with stupid liberals like YOU.

      Talk about racism. Why is it only Black people still cry about “the pain”? Look at the history of this country if you can, everyone had been discriminated against at one point: the Jews, the Irish, even the Asians. We all got over the hump, why do SOME Black people still have that “victim” attitude? I don’t dislike all Black people, just those with an attitude problem, the same way I dislike people of any race who have an attitude problem.

    • HA i know people who come from a low income family and never took a SAT class and STILL did well. so being poor doesn’t mean you automatically get a lower score on the SAT and don’t get into good UCs. ACTUALLY, my best friend got into Cal and still rejected it. yes, she had good SAT scores even though she never took a SAT class. stop being so stereotypical

  126. uhhh so what if a black person initiated the party?

    watching the video, you can tell he’s a dumb-ass. he’s looking for fame through dumb events like this and probably PREDICTED the media hoohaa. It’s STILL the frat who sent out the invitations for the event. he doesn’t represent the millions of african americans who were disrespected. and it still doesn’t change the fact that there’s only 40 black kids at ucsd. ucsd still needs to change something… and this is the perfect time to call attention to it. i support the BSU and i hope they got some of their demands met (not all, but some)

    • Here comes the double standard, your specialty I suppose. The black person who initiated the party is a dumb-ass, but the non-blacks are racists. Did you know that makes you fit the profile of racist? Or didn’t they teach that at Cal?
      For your information, I know fore sure that Berkeley DID at least want one person with perfect grades and a 2350 on the SAT, even if he is “closed minded” :-) Sorry to burst your bubble !
      I’m so glad I decided NOT to go to Berkeley, otherwise I might have to be around people like you. Of course I am more comfortable around people of my race, is it a crime now?

  127. isn’t there a right to be a dumbass? what kind of country do you want to live in? the fact is that this party is being used as an excuse to rally people to a cause, not to create any sort of debate. at least the party-goers are honest and admit they just wanted to have fun and drink. it is pretentious to think they are actually responsible for the social structures and admission policies that have resulted in such a low number of black and latino students at UCSD.

  128. it is not that race issues are not problematic, but this strategy blows incidents out of proportion. what is this talk about millions being disrespected? what are these lynching analogies?

    when something could have been solved with a conversation, it is instead made ridiculous and wearisome. this is why so many people do not take race matters seriously.

  129. And humanity continues to carry the burden, the guilt, the anger on its back; generation after generation.

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  131. Earn $3,000,000 for new UC classes!? Why does one of the top universities in the world have to spend $3 million of taxpayer money for consultants to do what should be done internally by UCB Chancellor Birgeneau?
    Who teaches auditors how to audit? Do UC professors not have the knowledge to perform what they teach?
    Having firsthand knowledge of consulting, I know one cardinal rule, “Don’t bite the hand that pays you.”
    In a nutshell, we have a high-paid, skilled UCB Chancellor who is unable or unwilling to do the job he is paid to do. Why do we wonder that UC and California are in a financial crisis!
    I’m sure taxpayers would not object to the $3 million payout if the money is reimbursed by taking money from the UCB Chancellor’s salary over the next 10 years.
    Stop the spending of $3,000,000 on consultants by President Yudof and the UCB Chancellor and do the job impartially and internally.
    These days ever dollar in higher education counts

  132. umm Thao Vu… likewise :) Glad we don’t go to the same school

    I got better things to do then talk to “know-it-alls” like you so this will be my last post (btw i already knew everything u said in your reply and i also chose berkeley over all the other UCs)

    btw, it hasn’t been confirmed that this guy initiated the party and even if he did, SO WHAT. he’s not sponsored by the school. the frat and the satire show ARE.

    mmmk. have a good life!

  133. @Thao Vu
    Prop 209 made it possible for people who do well on tests to get into UC. That doesn’t mean these students are the most promising college students or belong at UC. I have taught in the UC system and have seen many Asian students with language difficulties so bad that I couldn’t believe they got into college at all. But their test scores were high because they studied and memorized lots of disparate facts and formulas. When they got into UC, they couldn’t express themselves in comprehensible written English and they will have problems in the business world and in their careers for that very reason. Wouldn’t these students have been better off at a Cal State or community college where they could have worked on their deficiencies?

    • so how would you tell if one asian can’t write well and one can speak fluently through their application? you can’t. i hope you are not saying that we need to accept less asians just because some are like that. the fact is, if they get in, the UC can’t just say no to them because of their lack of english skills. and most asians who are good at math/science but not at english are usually science/engineering majors which doesn’t require much writing skills. a lot of science professors can’t even spell right during lectures.

    • “Prop 209 made it possible for people who do well on tests to get into UC. ”

      Actually, prop 209 did NOT make it possible for people who do well on tests to get into UC. It keeps the UC system from rejecting or accepting some people because of the color of their skin. In short, it keeps the UC system from being racists.

      “That doesn’t mean these students are the most promising college students or belong at UC. I have taught in the UC system and have seen many Asian students with language difficulties so bad that I couldn’t believe they got into college at all. ”

      I assume that you teach English then. Have you seen Asians in Math / Science classes? Also, I am surprised that you didn’t know that SAT scores is valued LESS than High School GPA by the UC system these days. That is because they assume, correctly I might add, that overall High School GPA is a better indicator of success in college than test scores. If these Asians can barely write as you claim, how can they get the required high GPA? ummm, food for thought, don’t you think?

  134. you know if people did not give these guys attention they would not be doing it at all.

  135. @ Thao Vu

    Prop 209 did, in fact, make it possible to consider only test scores and letter grades for student admission. The letter of the law has natural consequences. Back in the nineties, the entire argument in favor of 209 was about SAT scores and grades. I know, I was there when the arguments were made, and I was fighting against the proposition because I knew what would happen.

    Second, I did teach English, and it’s an undeniable fact that good academic writing skills are as essential to college and career success as good math skills, probably even more so. In my opinion, if you can’t write cogently about complex concepts, then you don’t deserve to be in college. The Asian students I taught got into the UC system based on high TOEFL scores but most of them could not write at a college level. I used to teach TOEFL preparation courses, so I know the tricks the students learn for taking this test. I had students who could barely write a paragraph do well enough on the TOEFL to get accepted to Cal State and, sometimes, UC. It’s all in the test preparation. The SATs are the same way. That is how students who cannot express themselves in college-level academic English get into UC: they study to the test, they learn tricks to maximize the number of correct guesses (when they don’t know an answer), and they learn how to prioritize their test-taking time. In other words, they learn how to take the test very well. This does not mean they actually can handle complex academic verbal content, like you would find in a philosophy class, for example. Nor does it mean that they can write well enough for college. College professors in all areas of the curriculum have expressed frustration with students whose writing skills are so poor that their papers cannot be understood. I have caught a number of Asian students cheating on essay assignments because they couldn’t actually write the essays themselves. I don’t care how good your math skills are: if you can’t write a comprehensible 5-page paper for your history GE, you have no business in college. And I say this as someone who got a 780 Math score on my GRE, and who has taken a great deal of math and science in my lifetime.

    In terms of GPAs, I can tell you something about high school writing as well, since I taught high school at one point. The very large school district in which I taught would not let ESL students fail. This was accomplished by having maximum teacher input on a paper. A student would write a small paragraph, based on a prompt. The teacher would cross out what the student wrote and write the correct (or more fluent) English for the student’s words. The student would then rewrite, copying verbatim what the teacher had written. This process might take place 2 or 3 times over the course of a single assignment, and, at the end, the student would have a beautifully written paragraph written mostly by his teacher. I remember being quite upset about this because the student’s skill was not being graded; the teacher’s skill was. I went to my department head, and she insisted that this was the way “downtown” wanted us to do this. There is a reason I left high school teaching after only a short time: the ESL teacher’s job was about passing kids through, not about actually teaching them anything. You ask how someone can get a high GPA without knowing anything about writing in English? That’s how.

    If it were up to me, prospective students would all be interviewed by the departments (or schools) that wanted to admit them, much like graduate students are interviewed by their departments. Verbal skills could be assessed by a conversation about the field and by a 30-minuted timed response to a department prompt, which the student would write by hand without books, notes or a dictionary. Sadly, we don’t have time to do this for 20,000 students. What we do have is an SAT (for which students can spend a lot of money in preparation materials and classes) and a highly subjective and inconsistent GPA.

    Remember, an A student is not necessarily your smartest student. An A student is the person who plays the game of school very well and who learns how to give the teachers want they want. A high GPA indicates a hard-working conformer, not a genius.

    • “A high GPA indicates a hard-working conformer, not a genius”

      I agree with you there, but how many geniuses do we have walking this earth? Do we have enough geniuses who want to go to UC to fill all the UC campuses? Therefore, at some point hard work ought to be enough. Please don’t tell me that you imply that not being a genius means one does not deserve to study at UC.

      I don’t deny that English is very important, but it’s not the center of the universe and it does not cure cancer. Besides, English is a highly subjective subject. As a student who has taken honor/AP English throughout HS, got a 5 in AP English Composition and a 5 in AP English Literature, I can tell you this: the idea of what good writing is varies a great deal from one teacher to the next. One English teacher would give a paper an A when another would give the same paper a B.

      I agree with you that what we have (a SAT for which SOME students can study and a highly subjective and inconsistent GPA) is not adequate, but how would affirmative action solve that problem? Ideally, an interview would help but the UC system cannot afford that !!! Affirmative action would harm a lot more students than it helps, that is my honest belief. I do not think it is right to sacrifice the future of some kids to make a political statement.

      • “A high GPA indicates a hard-working conformer, not a genius”

        I forgot to say: A high GPA indicates a hard-working student, it alone is not enough to indicate a genius. That doesn’t mean a person with a high GPA cannot be a genius, though. A high GPA and intelligence are not mutually exclusive, nor are they mutually inclusive.

        However, a high GPA at UCSD should be a strong indicator of intelligence, don’t you agree?

  136. those crazy bastards!

  137. Sorry I was wrong. I’m not really a UCSD student, and I still love cooking dogs in my kitchen.

  138. Let me guess…. this must be the same person who posted “im a dog eating slant eye” ? I feel sorry for you! You truly have nothing better to say than that?!?!?! Well, it begins to look like you will face troubles in life soon enough for your lack of courage, originality, intelligence, and other important qualities….. you are definitely not worth my time. Just continue on with your stupidity….. !!!! I have finals to prepare for.

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  140. Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.

    However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.

    This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.

    Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.

    Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.

    You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”

    But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”

    That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.

    This current climate of blaming, mocking or demeaning others for our own short comings, is not new, we have had this before and we have conquered it.

    Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.

  141. I take back my previous comment. I apologize to everyone for being such an ignorant douchebag. Actually I don’t really have finals to study for, just some extra time to play DDR and watch hentai while driving around like an idiot in my riced up Acura RSX and cooking dog stew for dinner. Keep those comments comin you lower mud races!

  142. if it had been a white guy that “left the rope behind” he would have been cuffed and prosecuted. What’s happening to the “minority woman”?
    The hypocrisy is the news here.

  143. HaHa!!! All you bleeding heart liberals that really thought this was a white rascist who did this…YOU ALL GOT FOOLED!!!

    Tawna Brawley, your fellow UCSD Student, set the whole thing up. Look at my comment posted on 02/26 @ 6:54am (this was painfully obvious to watch). We educated, free-thinking people, have seen this type of hoax played out sooo many times before…we could smell it a mile a way. Let this be a lesson Kids…this will not be the first time you see this “play” happen…. If you didn’t read it before…here is “tha diagram of tha scam”:

    This tactic is right from the “race-baiter playbook”. 1st…call all whites on Campus “rascist”. 2nd…stage a “rascist prop” (noose, burning cross, etc). 3rd…cry out how much you feel threatened, scared , intimidated, etc. 4th…enjoy lower admission standards, sympathy and free handouts from academic leftys with White Guilt. (Repeat as necessary)

  144. (1) UCSD: A group of dumb white frat guys hold an event called a “Compton Cookout.” This pisses people off as it used Black History Month as a reason to mock black people with racist stereotypes. Also involved is some idiot who tries to use this opportunity for shameless self-promotion, who also happens to be black. To say the least, the guy is basically a wannabe Flavor Flav.

    (2) UCSD: Another dumb white frat guy gets mad that blacks are offended of being relegated to a bigoted stereotype. He tries to hold another racist event.

    (3) UCSD: Meanwhile, a terrible student media publication (which, after viewing their website consists of all white staff, nudity, staff wrestling each other, and well, not much else), pushes their limits calling black students “ungrateful n——” – not just that word, but also that apparently the black students owed them something. They have a reputation of being trashy, and at this point, administration and faculty rush to condemn racism by students of the campus and various protests begin. Funding is also cut from all student media at UCSD, creating an extra bitter controversy.

    (4) UCSD: On Friday of that week, a noose is found in the library. Everything gets worked in a frenzy and – something I’ll address later – a large amount of white commenter’s on the internet begin claiming that is was probably a black student who planted it in order to gain more sympathy. In addition, there are rumors of a threatening note sent to the Guardian and a second noose, there was no second noose, and the threat seems to be just a rumor.

    (6) UCSD: Protests basically happen at all schools in support of the students. There are various sit-ins, and teach-ins, and what have you. School administrators become pushed to be more active in fixing what’s going on.

    I have not seen this noose person, but most of you blame her and conveniently forget wear this all originated. Dear Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage your chickens have come home to roost.

  145. Concerned American

    The scariest thing about this story are the postings I’ve seen here. These are UCSD students? These confused children are our future.
    As one poster said, what if the person that found it just tossed it in the trash? Would have been much better for all. That’s the thinking we need to instill in our young.

    Instead we have two racist hoaxes perpetuated on UCSD and all the kids and administrators wetting their panties.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2460343/posts

    The fact that most of you believe there is some racist powder keg about to blow up, and that racism is about the worst offense you can imagine, is a very sad reality for this old guy.

    I’ve got kids about to enter college.

  146. Concerned American #2

    “we have two racist hoaxes perpetuated on UCSD and all the kids and administrators wetting their panties.”

    I couldn’t agree with you more! I have two kids in college, one is at UCSD. I was so disappointed at the administrators for agreeing that the BSU had every reason to be upset, etc. Was it supposed to be Psychology 101 or what?

    BTW, why is the girl who put up the noose only suspended?

  147. Another Concerned American

    I am outraged to hear someone blaming the republicans for this noose. Let’s not forget that the core of our democracy lies in the fact that we have more than one political party. Look at the blatant violation of human rights in communist countries like mainland China and Vietnam to see what having only one political party, The Party, brings. Good God! is it what the likes of “Montana” really want?Such bipartisan attitude is what got us into this horrible mess in the first place. Let’s try to understand other points of view and not be too quick to condemn each other.

    I would say it is a big waste of time to debate over some hoaxes. It’s time to band together to demand our government to stop their wild spending at all levels, beginning right now with the $3 million dollars that should not have been spent at UC Berkeley. It’s time to make them accountable for their actions.

    You students should worry about where you can get a job when you graduate.

    To those who want to cry for more money without caring where it comes from: please stop asking “what has our country done for me?” and start asking “what have I done, what can I do, for our country?” In fact, we should ALL ask ourselves that question or there will be nothing left soon enough. Let’s not fight to get a bigger piece of the shrinking American pie for our group. Instead, let’s all fight to preserve (or even enhance) the American pie as a whole, together. I suggest that you, the students, concentrate on studying hard, and study something useful that can make you competitive in the GLOBAL job market. That should help you and our country out a lot.

    God bless America !

  148. Another Concerned American

    To Montana:
    You should apologize to the republican students on campus if you have even a modicum of self-respect.

  149. So are we ever going to see a picture of this girl who thought it was a great idea to slander the white students (a minority on that campus) at UCSD? I wonder if she looks like Tawana Brawley, Madonna Constantine, Crystal Magnum or Megan Williams?

    What you have is a bunch of ignorant kids who are attending schools that try to indoctrinate them before they even set foot in a classroom. And, of course, they KNOW the racism is there; if they have to manufacture it to prove it; well, as their professors have explained to them: there’s truth and then there’s The Truth, which is more important than any factual evidence that might or might not be available.

    In any case, it’s basic psychology, when an organism receives a reward for some event (racism), it seeks to duplicate the event that preceded or caused the reward (concessions from a craven/ideologically sympathetic adminstrators and functionaries).

  150. In response:

    Instead of an apology there has been steady escalation and now the noose. So, what exactly will the excuses be for this cowardly act that brings up memories of the confederate KKK of the South in their attempts to keep slavery and the non-whites in fear? Is it that are uneducated, is it that their parents planted these seeds of hate, is it that they are live in fear because our President in the white house is not 100% white. In my opinion this is what the small portions of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. These kids are good at “Follow the Leader” of their dullard leaders, they listen to Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage and the rest of the Blowhards, they are young and dumb. Are you surprise at what they do when you know what they think? The world is complicated and most republicans (Hamiliton, Lincoln, Roosevelt) believe that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now its about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. Although most republicans are trying to distant themselves from this fringe they have a long way to go.

  151. Hey dumbdumb [montana]. I didnt read your rant but since your so ill-informed ill spell it out for you – a brown or black person planted the noose to further hatred towards European-Americans [white people].

    you can now resume to watching BET and getting your edumacation from there. Its obviously a great source for up to date and correct information………….

  152. Dear father in heaven give us this daily bread in order to survive and it has been so in rich western world as many need guns ho’s drugs free sex and disgust as the n***** needs more from their hatred of white people who took them from savage monkey Africa and converted them to civilized people too ignorant and selfish and ugly to understand as they now want to retaliate with dressing more ghetto as this is typical n***** response. the media of recent invention half century shows even the white devil is a scumbag to god yet what is the proportion of blacks within their own community with divorce drugs and sex driven monkey behavior as they cal themselves n*****s with n***** behavior.

    yes- all mankind is a n***** slave as each controls another when they have more money and thus the master slave situation stays the same on the great monkey planet-

    the nigger is a nigger because they do not submit to being a child of god- color is irrelevant as some day geneticist will change any feature exterior as interior such as transforming the “retarded” population of homosexuals that enjoy seeking the shit of another mans ass.

    YES nigger very good to respond with more ghetto. soon the global slaughter begins again and the survivors will understand humility as the nigger is not content with daily bread

  153. “Hey dumbdumb [montana]. I didnt read your rant but since your so ill-informed ill spell it out for you – a brown or black person planted the noose to further hatred towards European-Americans [white people].”

    The girl will call it “trying to raise awareness” and probably receive some kind of award from this or that “students of color” association. In attendance will be the Dean and President of the University as well as a number of affirmative action professors and a few of the more sensitive white male professors.

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